Strange Things I’ve Seen – Mysterious Blue Pine Sap on Carstairs Trail‏

Update – June 18, 2018 – RESOLVED ! 

It would appear that a bacterial slime flux is causing this oozing blue goo. Once I had the descriptive name, I found all sorts of info about it on the I’Net.

Many thanks KHL.

Bushwhacker

Update – May 28, 2018 – The University of Guelph has no idea either.

Update – April 25, 2018 – I heard from a Provincial government ministry today. They explained why a blue spruce tree is blue, and suggested maybe it was by the same process. However, I’m trying to figure out why trees are oozing puddles of bright blue sap/resin/whatever, from under their bark, not why the needles of one species of pine appear kinda blue. I’ll just have to keep asking I suppose. 

Update – April 21, 2018 – OK, now we have reports of the same oddity from, British Columbia, Austria, and Colorado. Last week I attended a Spring gardening show and questioned a number of professional arborists. None could shed any light on the subject, as if they’d never even heard of such a thing. But they gave me some names and contacts to try. I’ll chase up those leads and post another update when I hear back.

Update – April 1 2018 – Not sure if this is a “Nature April Fool” but, over the last few weeks, I’ve seen alot of trees on numerous other trails, exhibiting this blue sap behaviour. I’ve been wandering the bush for alot of years but don’t recall seeing this “blue bleeding” thing until I saw it at Carstairs.

UPDATE – June 20 2016 – Since the addition of interpretive signage on this trail, we now know these trees are European Larches. Still don’t know why they “bleed” blue sap though.

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Back in April the wife and I were re-visiting the Carstairs trail because Peter’s Woods wasn’t open for the season yet. As we rounded the first bend in the trail, the wife spotted something extremely blue running down the side of a tamarack tree (I think).

Everyone’s seen pine sap with a pale bluish hue to it, but this was far beyond that. The following pics have not been altered, in fact the color intensity captured by the camera was less than appeared to the eye at the time, due to the angle of the sunlight.

Of course, I Googled for an explanation. The best I got was a sap-sucking fungus carried into pine trees by a beetle with a decidedly far Western name, which stains freshcut wood with a pale blue tinge. But this was a seriously bright blue ooze that had even puddled on the ground at the base of the trunk. So, I printed out those pics, and took them to the Ganaraska Region Conservation Authority.

I started getting excited when no one could figure out what it was. Excited and  concerned because as much as I love a poser, I hoped we hadn’t found something problematic. The GRCA’s Forester was attending an off-site meeting, so I left the pics there with my Home phone number. By the time I got Home the wife, met me at the door with the news that the GRCA Forester had no idea what it was either.

So, since the GRCA couldn’t explain it, I contacted the ROM (always very helpful in the past as well). That was a month ago, and after a coupla e-mails back and forth, no one has come up with an explanation. So, I guess this is a mystery to be pondered at length.

If anyone reading this has similar observations or can offer an explanation, please let me know. Thanks.

Bushwhacker

31 comments

  1. I have a pine tree in my backyard which all the sudden got covered in a beautiful blue sap and I can’t find any info on the reason it’s this color. I’m not sure it’s about the species of tree as I am in Austria.

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    1. Hello Edo,
      Thanks for your input. So this happens in Europe too ? I first thought it just affects larches because they are not indigenous to Canada. But just last week, I saw a definite pine bleeding deep blue. I have no idea what causes it, but none of the trees I see doing this seem to be in distress. They all appear to be quite healthy. The only thing that concerns me is that no one can tell me what it is. I hope it’s nothing serious. If I ever get an answer, I’ll post an update. Thanks again Edo. Bye for now,
      Bushwhacker

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      1. evergreen in iowa has the bright blue sap…. i was intrigued as i have never seen or heard of it either and i collect it for use

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        1. Thanks for your info Jolie. Hopefully, you can still use it.
          Bushwhacker

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  2. It is happening here in southern British Columbia, Canada as well. Very puzzling.

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    1. Thanks for your input Judy. While researching this phenomenon I read about a fungus carried by a beetle in the BC forests which will cause blue staining of the wood. Just the wood though, not actually bright blue sap oozing from the trees. So now it’s showing up in BC, Ontario, and according to Edo (in Austria), it’s there too. I’m gonna have to keep pushing my question up the ladder.

      Thanks again,
      Bushwhacker

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  3. Anonymous · · Reply

    I live in Colorado and the pine’s sap turned blue in my front yard. I don’t know if there’s any correlation but I noticed it after some really strong wind…

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    1. Thanks for your info. Last week, I was asking an arborist about it, when he smiled and said “Maybe you’ve discovered something they’ll name after you”. I’d prefer not to have ANYTHING named after me, if you know what I mean.
      Thanks again,
      Bushwhacker

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  4. Tamara · · Reply

    Did you ever get a real answer? Saw the same blue sap today in Glacier National Park and am super curious.

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    1. Not really Tamara. Any suggestions I’ve received don’t even come close to making any sense. Most of those I’ve asked, claim to have seen it themselves, but can only guess at what it is. All I know thus far, is that it seems to only affect conifers, and no one has done any research on it (yet). Now that I say that … I haven’t tried contacting any Universities to see if a student somewhere might be doing a thesis on it. Thanks for prompting the idea Tamara. I’ll get on that.

      Bushwhacker

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  5. I came across your page while trying to ID the blue draining liquid on a tree I saw last weekend in the Santa Cruz Mountains in California. I saw a number of similar photos, with several saying that the underlying problem is slime flux. This one, from the U of Idaho seems to be the most succinct (https://www.cals.uidaho.edu/edcomm/pdf/CIS/CIS1205.pdf), but if you do a Google image search with keywords such as sap, tree, blue you should find more examples. I also searched using the words slime, flux, tree and found more info. Blue still seems to be a less-common color and may be due to the particular type of bacteria that grown in the flux.

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    1. Thank you very much KHL,
      That’s exactly what I saw and have been trying to explain from the start! This issue is resolved.
      Bushwhacker

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  6. Glad to have gotten it figured out for both of us!

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  7. Jenn Cressman · · Reply

    I just looked this up because I saw the same thing in Orting, Washington, United states. I have pics if you want to see them.

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    1. Thanks Jenn,
      It appears this phenomenon is everywhere. Odd how it’s so common, yet it took so long, to find so few sources of info on it. We’ll see how it goes this Spring/Summer.
      Bushwhacker

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  8. I have the same blue tinged sap on my pine, looking for answers

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    1. Hello Carol,
      This page will explain it
      THIS LINK NO LONGER FUNCTIONS
      Bushwhacker

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  9. I found blue sap coming out of my pine tree, I’m in Ocean Shores, Washington State and I have lived in Western Washington for 50 yrs and never saw it before. The tree is alive and seems healthy. None of the other ones are affected, even a dead one.

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    1. Well, as the University of Idaho website explains, the infection isn’t necessarily fatal to the tree. I have since seen blue sap on numerous trees all over Ontario and they seem to be fine.
      Bushwhacker

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    2. Tammy again… I just saw more posts about this subject that reference weather and thought I’d mention we had a tornado north of us the beginning of December that caused significant damage here.

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      1. Weather might well have something to do with it. We’ve been suffering near drought conditions the last few Summers (after Spring floods). I know those conditions contribute to the leaf fungus our huge old silver maple has been enduring.
        Bushwhacker

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  10. Sherry Wolverine · · Reply

    Any updates? Found one in northern Saskatchewan

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    1. Hello Sherry,
      Apparently, this is a natural disease and no one has any ideas of how it spreads. The only common denominator seems to be that it is more prevalent in drier seasons. I have looked into our records and found the Summer when I saw the most of it, was a season of drought. The following year was normal for rainfall, and we saw much less of it. It isn’t always fatal but just like any other lifeform, if the individual’s health is compromised already, it makes that individual more susceptible to infection. To my knowledge, there isn’t any known treatment beyond manual removal of infected parts of the tree.
      Bushwhacker

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  11. Several pines in Warwick Memorial Park (NY) have this lovely shade of blue “sap” oozing out. Exactly like the photos you originally posted. I just noticed it today, March 17.

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    1. Yes, it is a lovely shade of blue in the early Spring. Thanks for your comment.
      Bushwhacker

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  12. Rusty Shackleford · · Reply

    We were up above the above American fork reservoir in Utah this weekend and about 10 trees were dripping blue and almost purple sap like ooze. I haven’t been able to find a satisfactory answer to wtf it is but I’m terribly curious about this. If someone has the info let me know. Thanks!

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    1. We’ve not seen the ooze actually moving here, but it’s obvious it flowed quite heavily before we saw it. Perhaps it’s related to the heat of Summer when we don’t spend as much time out there to see it flowing. Hopefully, someone else might provide more information about this phenomenon.
      Bushwhacker

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  13. Anonymous · · Reply

    Hi
    I saw that in my walk at Buntzen Lake loop in British Columbia and wondering what it was.
    Trying to get an answer, like you, I googled it and I noticed your post. It was a mystery to me too.
    Hopefully, someone has an answer
    Ellie

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    1. Hopefully, but until it affects someone’s bank account, I’m not expecting anything soon. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
      Bushwhacker

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  14. Anonymous · · Reply

    My pine tree in the back yard has been seriously thinning for at least the past 6 months and now theres this bright blue-ish sap and ooze on it!

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    1. Well apparently, if the tree is in good health, it can survive the infection. The trees I wrote about in this posting are still doing well today, 8 years later. There’s hope for your tree yet.
      Bushwhacker

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